Posts by Anders Andersen

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What is your relationship with ALCOHOL?

by nicolaou in

here in the uk new drinking guidelines have been issued which suggest "no more than 14 units a week - equivalent to six pints of beer or seven glasses of wine.".

another piece of the advice which is getting a lot of attention is that "if people drink, it should be moderately over three or more days and that some days should be alcohol-free.".

already people are making cries of "nanny state!

Anders Andersen

That's one reason I became a JW these people really love the wine, that's the religion for me.

So true. A converted sister (not born in I mean) in our cong. always commented on how every JW who visits brings booze or wine. She couldn't drink fast enough to decrease her stockpile. She never experienced that with them godless worldly people. (Well maybe it's her fault - slow drinker)

@FMF, South Florida....hmm that's only 2 hours by train and then a 9 hour (maybe 10?) flight for me :-p

But maybe my job sends me to Boca Raton some day (branch over there)....

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What is your relationship with ALCOHOL?

by nicolaou in

here in the uk new drinking guidelines have been issued which suggest "no more than 14 units a week - equivalent to six pints of beer or seven glasses of wine.".

another piece of the advice which is getting a lot of attention is that "if people drink, it should be moderately over three or more days and that some days should be alcohol-free.".

already people are making cries of "nanny state!

Anders Andersen

I'm with FMF,

A couple beers every night until in my 30, switched to much less beer, and have few wines instead.

Now it's whiskey straight up, but I limit myself to 1 or 2 small glasses on weekends only. And holidays. And events. And when I deserve it.

My only coffee habit is espresso (pref. double) after diner.

Now them cigars look promising, but my still in wife will leave me the minute I buy one....so FMF where do you live? I'll come over for the weekend ;-)

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"Apostates " how honest are we?

by closed in

as i mentioned in another post i used to serve as an elder for 2 decades.

i was involved in a number of jc.

some i dealt with are good friends now.

Anders Andersen

@FreeMindFade,

Interesting quote in that image...where is it from?

@Tenacious,

Nice post!

@Cognac,

To clear up what you possibly misunderstood:

You seem to understand from the OP that he didn't like dubs lied to him during JCs?

But his point was that some people lied about their JC after it took place, and discredited the Borg and the JC with lies in newspapers.

Hence the question: how honest are apostates?

Anyway y'all already kissed and made up :-)

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I almost died laughing at the meeting last night. OMG WTF is going on? Have I been away this long?

by macys in

ok so most of you guys know already that i am going through the reinstatement process for my parents but i do have a partially sinister plan which i will not mention here since someone told me that there are b-lites that read boards like this.

last night and it was the funniest experience i have ever seen.

besides that the brother doing the sound and video screwed up the whole thing when showing the videos and it took 3 brothers to fix it after 10 minutes, the whole thing was a joke.

Anders Andersen

Nice post. I'm almost tempted to join my wife for the meeting tonight

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Do the Governing body really have the power some think they do?

by sherrie11 in

i mentioned this in a previous post, i feel the current gb truly believe they are chosen by god and are indoctrinated just as much as the rank and file.

they are deluded in their belief that they are guardians of the doctrine.

they are suffering from cognitive dissonance just as much.

Anders Andersen

Very nice quote!

While looking for the source, I found the original to have even a little better applicable to obeying Dubs:

They must find it hard to take Truth for authority who have so long mistaken Authority for Truth.

A Retort, from Gerald Massey's Lecturesc.1900; often cited as They must find it difficult, those who have taken authority as truth, rather than truth as authority.

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Reply to Bugbear: Why I believe in the Bible

by Saved_JW in

[some words i corrected for spelling & grammer] .

"i have been studying the bible for almost 20 years....after graduating in history and science comparing to the the bible, i have have come to to the conclusion that the bible cannot give you any reason to believe in it at all.

so i wonder, why do you use the bible as facit to your believes?

Anders Andersen

I agree with you in that we all have biases.

And of course everyone is free to reject or accept anything as evidence as they see fit.

After all, people are the same in that they are all unique.

We bring our own background, upbringing, culture, preferences and way of thinking into any decision we make.

This means that people who really investigate and think about what they believe or not (like you) can still believe in God(s) and be religious.

While (some/many) people on both sides of the spectrum of belief might not be able to understand why the other side reached a different conclusion, they should not conclude that the other ones are necessarily stupid.

However, I must strongly object to the false dichotomy you proposed:

Those who are not changed by God, will live in rebellion and will hate Him. Its really one or the other.

To me this statement is equivalent to an atheist calling everyone who believes in God deluded or assume they are not thinking clearly.

Also, the statement is not true at all.

There is another option.

I was not changed by God. I begged Him to help me believe in Him.

Nothing happened.

According to your statement, I must now hate God. I don't. I simply do not have any reason to believe He exists.

I don't hate God at all.

If I ever see any reasons to believe again, I gladly will, without resentment.

No hard feelings towards God.

Does one really live in rebellion if the authority one does not obey does not really exist?

My behaviour might not always be according to (Bible) God's wishes, but that is not because I resist his authority.

It's because I have never been able to ever verify there even is such an authority to rebel against.

If that authority becomes clear, I'll gladly obey (if the demands are as could reasonably expected from a loving authority that has good intentions).

And of course, if I were not an atheist but a religious Jew or any other non-Christian religion, we would have this very same discussion.

If I were a Christian, I would have to have this same discussion with Jews, Muslims and many others. Regardless of which God one obeys, there is always another group claiming you live in rebellion against (their) God.

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How many visitors do we get ?

by Simon in

jw
friends

someone was asking me in the chatroom about the number of hits the site gets.

here is a brief summary (of what we currently get per week):.

21,000 visitors.

Anders Andersen

Did the average attention span change much? :-p

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Jehovah’s Witnesses rebuked by Royal Commission

by Watchtower-Free in

http://royalcommission.com.au/pells-appearance-postponed-jehovahs-witnesses-rebuked/.

Anders Andersen

Now we just have to wait for the Watchtower study that emphasises Jesus words to forgive 77 times....

BTW according to WT explanation on that verse, 77 should be read as 'unlimited'.

So that's what I did when reading the ARC submission.

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Who thinks Wt is going to throw Vincent Tool under the bus if he loses his law registration.

by joe134cd in

just read speculation about this on another thread.

who thinks vincent tool, if looses his law license and becomes less useful to wt that he will then be reassigned to the field.

or is he just to big of a player to lose even with out a practicing law license.

Anders Andersen

@ToesUp: thanks!

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Who thinks Wt is going to throw Vincent Tool under the bus if he loses his law registration.

by joe134cd in

just read speculation about this on another thread.

who thinks vincent tool, if looses his law license and becomes less useful to wt that he will then be reassigned to the field.

or is he just to big of a player to lose even with out a practicing law license.

Anders Andersen

Toes Up and RBTH,

Thanks for the suggestion, did that already :-) Good read indeed, now I need to read the other book by Franz.

Were they mentioned in there?